Is it encouraged to fast according to Urantia book

    Owen Besigye
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      • Owen Besigye
        By Owen Besigye

        87:2:4 (959.5) Fasting and other forms of self-denial were thought to be pleasing to the ghosts, who took pleasure in the discomfort of the living during the transition period of lurking about before their actual departure for deadland.

        (Do we really want to continue pleasing the non-existent "ghost culture"?)

        136:3:3 (1512.7) Jesus did not go into retirement for the purpose of fasting and for the affliction of his soul.

        (...which was misunderstood and then made into dogma by churches later on

        • Paul Kemp Administrator
          By Paul Kemp Administrator

          Thank you Owen for addressing this most important subject. May I add also the Dangers of Fasting

          The urge to seek for food is the strongest of all natural inclinations and it is actually dangerous to go without food for more than three days as the risk of losing this natural instinct to find food may be the result of long term fasting. This leads to the conditions of anorexia (loss of the urge to eat) or bulimia (bingeing and then vomiting the food eaten) 

          HISTORY

            140:5.8 2. "Happy are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled." Only those who feel poor in spirit will ever hunger for righteousness. Only the humble seek for divine strength and crave spiritual power. But it is most dangerous to knowingly engage in spiritual fasting in order to improve one's appetite for spiritual endowments. Physical fasting becomes dangerous after four or five days; one is apt to lose all desire for food. Prolonged fasting, either physical or spiritual, tends to destroy hunger.

            140:5.9 Experiential righteousness is a pleasure, not a duty. Jesus' righteousness is a dynamic love -- fatherly-brotherly affection. It is not the negative or thou-shalt-not type of righteousness. How could one ever hunger for something negative -- something "not to do"?

           

            140:5.10 It is not so easy to teach a child mind these first two of the beatitudes, but the mature mind should grasp their significance.

            89:3.1 Renunciation came as the next step in religious evolution; fasting was a common practice. Soon it became the custom to forego many forms of physical pleasure, especially of a sexual nature. The ritual of the fast was deeply rooted in many ancient religions and has been handed down to practically all modern theologic systems of thought.

           

           

            89:4.1 Sacrifice as a part of religious devotions, like many other worshipful rituals, did not have a simple and single origin. The tendency to bow down before power and to prostrate oneself in worshipful adoration in the presence of mystery is foreshadowed in the fawning of the dog before its master. It is but one step from the impulse of worship to the act of sacrifice. Primitive man gauged the value of his sacrifice by the pain which he suffered. When the idea of sacrifice first attached itself to religious ceremonial, no offering was contemplated which was not productive of pain. The first sacrifices were such acts as plucking hair, cutting the flesh, mutilations, knocking out teeth, and cutting off fingers. As civilization advanced, these crude concepts of sacrifice were elevated to the level of the rituals of self-abnegation, asceticism, fasting, deprivation, and the later Christian doctrine of sanctification through sorrow, suffering, and the mortification of the flesh.

           

            100:5.9 The characteristics of the mystical state are diffusion of consciousness with vivid islands of focal attention operating on a comparatively passive intellect. All of this gravitates consciousness toward the subconscious rather than in the direction of the zone of spiritual contact, the superconscious. Many mystics have carried their mental dissociation to the level of abnormal mental manifestations.

           

            90:4.8 Fasting, dieting, and counterirritants were often used as remedial measures. Human secretions, being definitely magical, were highly regarded; blood and urine were thus among the earliest medicines and were soon augmented by roots and various salts. The shamans believed that disease spirits could be driven out of the body by foul-smelling and bad-tasting medicines. Purging very early became a routine treatment, and the values of raw cocoa and quinine were among the earliest pharmaceutical discoveries.

            90:4.9 The Greeks were the first to evolve truly rational methods of treating the sick. Both the Greeks and the Egyptians received their medical knowledge from the Euphrates valley. Oil and wine was a very early medicine for treating wounds; castor oil and opium were used by the Sumerians. Many of these ancient and effective secret remedies lost their power when they became known; secrecy has always been essential to the successful practice of fraud and superstition. Only facts and truth court the full light of comprehension and rejoice in the illumination and enlightenment of scientific research.

           

           

            100:5.10 The more healthful attitude of spiritual meditation is to be found in reflective worship and in the prayer of thanksgiving. The direct communion with one's Thought Adjuster, such as occurred in the later years of Jesus' life in the flesh, should not be confused with these so-called mystical experiences. The factors which contribute to the initiation of mystic communion are indicative of the danger of such psychic states. The mystic status is favored by such things as: physical fatigue, fasting, psychic dissociation, profound aesthetic experiences, vivid sex impulses, fear, anxiety, rage, and wild dancing. Much of the material arising as a result of such preliminary preparation has its origin in the subconscious mind.

            100:5.11 However favorable may have been the conditions for mystic phenomena, it should be clearly understood that Jesus of Nazareth never resorted to such methods for communion with the Paradise Father. Jesus had no subconscious delusions or superconscious illusions.

           

           

            136:3.3 Jesus did not go into retirement for the purpose of fasting and for the affliction of his soul. He was not an ascetic, and he came forever to destroy all such notions regarding the approach to God. His reasons for seeking this retirement were entirely different from those which had actuated Moses and Elijah, and even John the Baptist. Jesus was then wholly self-conscious concerning his relation to the universe of his making and also to the universe of universes, supervised by the Paradise Father, his Father in heaven. He now fully recalled the bestowal charge and its instructions administered by his elder brother, Immanuel, ere he entered upon his Urantia incarnation. He now clearly and fully comprehended all these far-flung relationships, and he desired to be away for a season of quiet meditation so that he could think out the plans and decide upon the procedures for the prosecution of his public labors in behalf of this world and for all other worlds in his local universe.

           

          Godspeed Owen on the adventures of enlightenment, finding and understanding the God who has found and sonshiped you. May you inspire many to enter into the eternal life of the Father of Love and the merciful ministry of Salvation now available to every citizen who receives the Son's Spirit of Truth.

           

           

           

          Comments

          • Ainamani John
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            By Ainamani John

            It sounds so amazing

          • Owen Besigye
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            By Owen Besigye

            Thank you Papa for your good answer

          • Owen Besigye
            By Owen Besigye

            paper 146 - first preaching tour of galilee
            146:2:15 (1640.4) jesus warned his followers against thinking that their prayers would be rendered more efficacious by ornate repetitions, eloquent phraseology, fasting, penance, or sacrifices.r you

            Paper 140 - The Ordination of the Twelve
            140:5:8 (1574.1) Physical fasting becomes dangerous after four or five days; one is apt to lose all desire for food. Prolonged fasting, either physical or spiritual, tends to destroy hunger.

            Paper 142 - The Passover at Jerusalem
            142:8:1 (1605.3) Many of the Nazarite brotherhood became believers in Jesus, but the majority of these ascetic and eccentric men refused to accept him as a teacher sent from heaven because he did not teach fasting and other forms of self-denial.

            • Owen Besigye
              By Owen Besigye

              Paper 147 - The Interlude Visit to Jerusalem
              147:8:5 (1656.6) And then long into the night Jesus propounded to his apostles the truth that it was their faith that made them secure in the kingdom of the present and the future, and not their affliction of soul nor fasting of body.

              Paper 147 - The Interlude Visit to Jerusalem
              147:7:2 (1655.4) To pray is natural for the children of light, but fasting is not a part of the gospel of the kingdom of heaven. ...

              • Niwamanya Onesmas
                By Niwamanya Onesmas

                Thanks Papa really that's true about what we are going through today.

              Director Besigye Owen - Youths Urantia Ambassadors Of Christ Association

              Director Besigye Owen - Youths Urantia Ambassadors Of Christ Association

              To reveal the entry-level, gospel truths of the kingdom of God, the family of God, and to make sure that the person had spiritually received the truth of sonship with the Father before going on to give advanced teachings.